A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was. A few known facts and a few overstated kernels of truth give a false, gleaming varnish of Truth Exposed when twisted around implications and presumptions based on false logic, when theyre confidently stated as reality, and lead the non-critical reader to unquestioningly believe exactly what the writer has skewed their words to lead them to believe. It did not begin that way even for Blacks/Africans. Remember the sexual abuse of African slaves was the key to keeping the slave population going. The black people of today are not harmed by the slavery of decades ago any more than I (an Irish-American) or any other Irishmen are. No one could understand the African language. I enjoy being educated, there is so much to learn that I wish our young people were taught, so they would love instead of hating each other. 8. African-American Lenwood Sloan was in his 20s before he learned why his father insisted he is nice to the lone elderly white man that. This proclamation lasted 200 years ,ending some 9-13 years before Black Slavery Emancipation. The Healy familiar is a wonderful exemplar. Famous Doyles include writer and creator of Sherlock Holmes Arthur Conan Doyle, and novelist and screenwriter Roddy Doyle. We have to stop making up excuses for white slaveholders and the damage they inflicted onto their black captives, including the removal of our names and stripping us of even the knowledge of knowing where we are (specifically) from as the Irish, English, Spaniards, Scottish, etc. Australian model and actor Julian MacMahon is one of the most famous MacMahons. I can trace my Ancestry on my Maternal Grandmothers (Fathers) side of the Family Tree back to Ireland. 250 years you say? The English Welsh and Scottish peoples all suffered by the hands of the elitist British. Bear in mind black African slaves had the stigma of being likened to animals, mentally backwards and being treated as savage- Which was part of the propaganda system to justify black Africans being enslaved. Ill make no apologies for White supremacy. Since enslaved blacks did not have last names at the time the Civil War ended, many were catalogued on freedmens lists and forced to adopt last names. More than a sense of pride, our names give us the ability to trace our Irish roots through the generations. Prisoners whether for rebellion or minor offenses ended up in service. From Irish Deoradhin meaning "descendant of Deoradhn", where Deoradhn is a given name meaning "exile, wanderer". There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. What Im saying is that youre complete idiot.) This seems to be the deniers and minimizes position. My maiden name is Mc Knight. The Normans originated in France, where black-haired people are not uncommon. Brown is another common Irish surname. Therefore, this preposterous on-going debate only goal is to keep the Blacks monopolizing the atrocious history of slavery. There are many different races from different parts of the world, all with their own diverse history that share the same or similar skin colors. Working is a choice and they get paid for their work. Famous people with the surname OBrien include comedian Conan OBrien, actor Dylan OBrien, and guitarist Pat OBrien. Blacks participated and also were complacent in the slave trades. Hackett was later hung for what he did. The oldest known Irish surname is OClery (O Cleirigh in Gaelic). 8. They were owned by an Irish family. Slavery was a terrible condition to place on any people. Was that what drove the slave trade in the last millenia? From a young age, nomadic parents placed a strong emphasis on education in real experience and the outdoors - a trait which has carried through her life and into her career. I think slavery regardless of color is disgusting and shameful, but even more is to come out of slavery and help the oppressor with the same oppression that was previously placed upon you. Bullshidt!!!! Although they did suffer as the Africans, they were also afforded certain privileges not afforded to African slaves. So, in a nutshell, after killing millions in an engineered genocide in Ireland, the ruling class developed a conscience suddenly and Irish people got full human status in Antigua? One of the most famous people with the surname Maguire is actor Tobey Maguire. This is so true, Africans have claimed slavery as their own. Africa was named after a so-called white man by the name of Scipio Africanus. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives. My Uncle Lon, born in the U.S. was shot in the head by the KKK in Sudbury Massachusetts back in the twenties. Murray Irish spelling: Muireadhaigh Meaning: Descendent of Muireadhaigh, a seaman. Paddyboy, and a lot (not all, obviously) of the Irish coming to the colonies werent Irish either, but came from UK families who spent a few generations in Ireland, then moved on. On this issue, as often happens, the ignorant aspirants to house nigguh status are still carrying water for the masters. Very few are disputing that the British were horrific to the Irish, and to some extent, the Scottish as well. So not forgotten but definitely no true or meaningful comparison. This was about 14% of all the recorded Blake's in USA. Great to hear the truth that MOST BRITISH dont want to hear COLM MAHER. In fact, some African tribal leaders were profited from the slave trade by allowing and assisting slave traders in raiding their enemies land. It is derived from the Gaelic Conchobhair (descendant of Conchobar "lover of hounds"). While the Irish did not have it good they had much better circumstances than slaves. Dont continue to nourish the seeds of bigotry by oversimplifying complicated historical issues and happenings into Blacks and Whites or any other shade of color. Slavery of some form exists now. Widespread and woven into many different cultures around the globe, Irish surnames are ever-present today. Where did you find this information? Gallagher 15. Blacks where all over the world. One of the most notable people with the surname Dunne is Irish entrepreneur and former director of Dunnes Stores Ben Dunne. naturally, that population mixed in with the newly arrive slave blacks as well as the indigenous blacks. The Africans were considered less than apes, incapable of learning, and the forced inter-breeding with the Irish women was eventually made illegal because it was considered an abomination to force even the least among White women to copulate with an animal. Slavery is a terrible condition to place on people. To keep it going. Origin: Irish; Meaning: "dark, black" Description: Keir is a single-syllable name that packs a lot of punch, might suggest -- thanks to its similarity to the word . Dudley or Dudlly is my family name . Why do we continue to ignore the pain of others? In Gaelic, the Irish native language, the word for black (or dark) is 'dubh', and foreigner is 'gall'. The phrase "Black Irish" has been in use for hundreds of years, and several brands of Irish whiskey. 3) even if they were 100,000 Irish slaves (which there were not) how dare you attempt to chastise us for talking about the African holocaust? In the cases of non-English origin, the surname is likely to be an Anglicisation. The Blake family name was found in the USA, the UK, Canada, and Scotland between 1840 and 1920. If you dont think so then sign over your person to an employer for a while and tell me if that feels like service. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Also Indians are not Asians either. #DoesntAddUp. Why because only blacks get to claim such horrible treatment of their people? This is incorrect information. There is truth in what you say. Remember England was also enslaved by the Romans. For example, Barack Obama has Irish ancestors on his white mothers side. Full history, EXPLAINED. Kennedy 17. If so then wheres the genetic descendantcy of white besides the colonizing unaltered British or whatever bloodline in the West Indies today? I am a Jamaican and I do know, based on teaching, that whites were experimented as slaves for a short period; however they failed to be productive in the climate and harsh conditions. Africans were renamed, what about the irish? Those who completed their term of service were awarded freedom dues and were free. They account for a lot of the Irish sounding names in the south, whether they were Scots names, or co opted Irish names, they do not belong to the Irish family system. Im so saddened and grateful for all of your research on this. One generation after another. In fact, many of today's common Irish names have origins in Gaelic, Celtic, or Norse languages. Some people wallow in the past and stay the victim. The real culprit is blind greed, economic opportunism, and plain availability. If you notice, there is nothing said at all about color in the constitution concerning slaves. I know for some sorry isnt enough and I agree .However Im more concerned with my family that was shackled, bound, branded raped, sold. Black Name Meaning English and Scottish: chiefly from Middle English blak (e) 'black' (Old English blc blaca) a nickname given from the earliest times to a swarthy or dark-haired man. I have some European and native American ancestry, but I claim African American only!!! I never learned the whole story of how though unrelated, both husbands had the same Irish surname. Yes, Irish were often seen as lower than low, called black Irish or Irish niggers, but dont confuse abusive language with being a slave. It was common in the 1600s for the Irish prefixes O and Mac to be dropped from Irish names. Google how and why enslaving whites/Christians was outlawed in the U.S. Im not going to do the research for you. Also, what is the point if making a caste system of victims. if you go to a protestant area in belfast they are putting polish and africans out of the area. They resented having to serve in the civil war and dis honored black soldiers but they fly Confederate flags proudly. At the time the Irish were indentured or enslaved or some similar term, the Irish were not yet categorized as white but as just Irish. Read How the Irish became white. Then also read The Invention of the White Race., Good information and horrible pass but good to know and tell others about it, This is absolutely fascinating. Thank you Gary Dingleloved reading your response. Ryan Fitzpatrick, NFL quarterback, was named the fifth smartest athlete in sports by Sporting News in 2010. I read How the Irish Became White. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. My Great great great grandmother was the daughter of an Irish Slave Owner. African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). British actress and screenwriter Emer Kenny is one of the most well-known Kennys. Famous Reids include actress Tara Reid, TV presenter Susanna Reid, and retired American attorney Harry Reid. Then they faced the Nina signs( no irish need apply) etc etc..basically, the irish tried so hard to fit in, after 800 years of oppression,real oppressionthey wanted to fit in bad..they wanted to be white!! What I will do is to remind you that GOD gave us all an ability that sets us apart from lower animals and that is the ability to reason, use common sense instead of instinct, as lower animals do. and; Collins Irish spelling: Coilein Ive often had arguments on the very same topic, because blacks have claimed slavery as our own. There is much debate over the original meaning of the term black Irish. I do so only under protest. My name is John Orr and im dark ass hell any Orrs on here. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Rarely youll find them listed by age, gender and a first name NEVER A LAST NAME. Famous people with the surname Connolly include comedian Billy Connolly and musician Brian Connolly. Who were you responding to? It could easily be claimed by any of those writers who like to push their political agendas by denying facts in evidence and making up effects and results that sound plausible, but simply did not happen, or do not have the meanings that those writers freely attach to them. This answers a hell of a lot for me. The names and places may change however the game and the crimes remain the same. I added the Facebook icon to my blog so you can share the link. This is very informative. Surname Origin: Irish Alternate Surname Spellings: O'SULLIVAN, OSULLIVAN I got my answer. Lets recall the words of Dr. King: .Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last! . Moore is another of the most popular Irish names. This is sometimes used to by Irish to distance themselves from the slaveholdinhs in America. Evidence of last names in Ireland appears from around the early 900s, making it one of the first places in Europe to adopt hereditary surnames. We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade. Donovan Irish. Irelands population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. The bad words Jamaicans curse originated from Ireland. The name Cullen is best known from the fictional family of the Twilight book and film series. Again, just a guess. 4. Slavery, in any oppressive, dehumanizing form is wrong! Throughout history, all nations and races are guilty of slavery. This was brought about by many different factors and not just slavery as most people seem to think. If I had to hazard a guess, Id say familiarity. a male black slave cannot transfer an Irish last name.so it would have had to be a male Irish slave mating with an African slave women who would not have been the owner of the slave child , it would have to have the name of the white owner, so riddle us that?? As with the Vikings, these were viewed as a people of "dark intentions" who ultimately colonized much of the Eastern part of the country and several larger towns. The most Blake families were found in USA in 1880. That is sooooo stupid. Groups of the French invaders landed on Irish shores, bringing with them new customs and characteristics to native Irish people and Irelands culture. Dunne From the Irish for brown (donn), the original Irish name Duinn has by now lost the O prefix. One of the most famous Thompsons is actress Emma Thompson. Am Afro-American. It is a shallow attempt and more nonsense than anything. (And, yes, it is a fact that that term, indentured servitude, was mostly just used as a polite term for *slightly* less brutal slavery from which there was actually hope of escape.). Read Whence the Black Irish of Jamaica by Joseph R Williams. It generally refers to racial, ethnic or cultural roots. And dont realise you are all from the one race- the human race. In its conception, Ireland was made up of kin groups or clans. When did the law stop saying that one drop of Irish blood could give people the legal right to kill, segregate, or abuse you? Whereas once the Irish people mainly spoke Irish (Gaelic/Gaeilge) the indigenous language English is now the primary language.
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